Learning Feminism

June 4, 2009

Woohoo! Amy’s back!

Filed under: Uncategorized — Joce Claire @ 9:13 pm

Amy put all the articles, links, and book recommendations back on her site! 




  1. Wow, that’s great! 😀

    Comment by Maggie — June 5, 2009 @ 2:02 am | Reply

  2. Joceclaire (and Maggie too), I just discovered the thread below this one and I’m very sorry, I think the way polly talked to the two of you was unacceptable. If I had read this thread earlier, I don’t think I would have left the comment that I did, the way I did, in the thread at AROOO last night. It’s one thing for those of us who’ve been around the block a few times to trade strong words, but a completely other thing for someone to use that kind of life experience against others who are just getting their feet under them WRT feminism and/or lesbianism.

    Again, I’m sorry that happened, and I want you both to know how much your kind words have helped me in recent days/weeks.

    Comment by Amy's Brain Today — June 5, 2009 @ 10:26 am | Reply

    • Thanks a lot, Amy. I couldn’t believe she went after me like that, the other day. This wasn’t the polly I used to know; she has changed terribly. I hadn’t said or done anything to her and then, suddenly, she started mischaracterizing me and bullying me. I wan’t expecting such a thing. 😦

      What she didn’t understand is that, in the “contaminated” comment, it was not really the ‘lesbian’ thing that bothered me after all (I know I don’t need anyone’s permission to be a lesbian), it was a lot more the “virgin/whore” dichotomy, that was so triggering to survivors of rape and compulsory institutionalized intercourse.

      Anyway, it was not because she refused to understand that that she had to jump on me like that. We could have had a more civil, a more adult, conversation…

      Oh, yeah, and I’m so sorry it happened, Joceclaire. 😦

      Comment by Maggie — June 5, 2009 @ 11:32 am | Reply

    • Aw, thanks, Amy. I really appreciate the support. And I absolutely LOVE your blog, though I wish you allowed comments (though I also understand why you don’t)!

      I want to say that your post on BDSM was brilliant. All the other critiques of the practice have tended to assume dominant male/submissive female and be based on anecdotal evidence. I don’t support BDSM, but I never read something before that really got to the heart of what’s wrong with it. So, thank you for that piece and all the amazing work you do!


      Comment by joceclaire — June 5, 2009 @ 3:23 pm | Reply

      • Oops, I went back and saw you didn’t write the S&M critique, it was Claudia Card, so let me give credit where credit is due. I still think you’re brilliant, though, as is Card’s essay.

        Link for those interested: http://www.feminist-reprise.org/docs/card.htm. It’s a bit long, but worth it.

        Comment by joceclaire — June 5, 2009 @ 4:02 pm | Reply

  3. Whoo-HOOOOO!!! And YAYAY! Amy’s back! 😀

    Comment by undercover punk — June 5, 2009 @ 2:18 pm | Reply

  4. Maggie. The Polly you ‘used to know’ didn’t exist. She was a figment of your imagination. I am the exact same person I have always been. You do not *know* me at all and never have done. Please don’t delude yourself.

    Amy: when I want your approval I’ll ask for it. You’re not in charge of my life in case you hadn’t noticed. So I’ll do what I want and tough shit if you don’t like it.

    Comment by Polly Styrene — June 5, 2009 @ 3:22 pm | Reply

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